The video below is from a program called, "The Newshour Debate" that airs daily on the Indian TV channel "Times Now." The host is Arnab Goswami.
On November 4, 2014, the show featured Indian and Pakistani military guests and revolved around the recent Pentagon report that charged Pakistan of using terrorist proxy forces in India and Afghanistan.
An excerpt from the video:
"Admiral, first point, the Americans were peeved with you because all of the money they were pouring in wasn't going into your society, but it was going into the coffers of your army, which was becoming fatter and fatter with the dollars and investing in institutions that were feeding your generals. You being a part of the establishment will know how that works.The Newshour Debate: Pentagon Nails Pakistan - Part 2 (4th Nov 2014). Source: TheNewshourDebate. Date Published: November 4, 2014. Description:
You are also talking about the fact that America has turned time to time for and against Pakistan. But it's a given fact of history that Pakistanis have always relied on three As: Allah, the Army, and the Americans. One of the As now has abandoned you. At the rate you are going you have to get real, sir, you have to get real and address the internal problems. Your army, Admiral, is the cause of all your problems, and the army's obsession of using terror groups and proxy warriors to further your agenda is something which you have to get them to address." - Mahroof Raza, Strategic Affairs Analyst, addressing Pakistani Admiral Javed Iqbal.
In a debate moderated by TIMES NOW's Editor-in-Chief Arnab Goswami, panelists -- Dr. Sudhanshu Trivedi, National Spokesperson , BJP& Political Advisor to Rajnath Singh; Mahroof Raza, Strategic Affairs Analyst; Col (Retd) RSN Singh, Former RAW Officer; Admiral Javed Iqbal, Defense Anlayst; Mayed Ali Khan, Chief Reporter, The News; Air Vice Marshall (Retd) Abid Rao, Defence Analyst -- discuss whether it is time to declare Pakistan a terrorist state.